Ava DuVernay hopes Frances McDormand's Oscars "inclusion rider" speech helps "make real change" in Hollywood

ABC/Paula Lobo(NEW YORK) — Ahead of her highly anticipated film adaptation of Madeleine L’Engle beloved children’s book, A Wrinkle in Time, Ava DuVernay is weighing in on Frances McDormand’s passionate Oscars speech and the importance of inclusion riders in contracts.

“An inclusion rider is an idea that’s going around the industry and in Hollywood and New York and Atlanta where there’s a lot of productions for film and television,” DuVernay, who has been a consistent champion for inclusion, tells ABC Radio. “[It] says that as an actor, who usually has a lot of power on these productions — that they want a part of their contract to say that the studio and the director and the producers will include all different kinds of people in the crew positions.”

Ava continues, “So all those hardworking crew members — an inclusion rider says, ‘if you hire me, you’ve also got to hire people who look like the real world.'”

DuVernay says she also agrees with McDormand’s push for actors to include the rider when they come on board new projects.

“I think it’s a beautiful idea,” she explains. “And I’m really supportive of any idea that looks at ways to get more kinds of people, and more cultures, more races, more diversity and gender behind the camera.”

While McDormand’s speech may have struck a cord and started a conversation, DuVernay understands there’s no guarantee it will immediately change things. However, she believes it’s a great start.

“And so, good for her for using that international platform,” she says. “And now everyone’s talking about it… And maybe it’ll make real change.”

A Wrinkle in Time opens March 9 from Disney, the parent company of ABC News.

Copyright © 2018, ABC Radio. All rights reserved.

Ava DuVernay hopes Frances McDormand's Oscars "inclusion rider" speech helps "make real change" in Hollywood

ABC/Paula Lobo(NEW YORK) — Ahead of her highly anticipated film adaptation of Madeleine L’Engle beloved children’s book, A Wrinkle in Time, Ava DuVernay is weighing in on Frances McDormand’s passionate Oscars speech and the importance of inclusion riders in contracts.

“An inclusion rider is an idea that’s going around the industry and in Hollywood and New York and Atlanta where there’s a lot of productions for film and television,” DuVernay, who has been a consistent champion for inclusion, tells ABC Radio. “[It] says that as an actor, who usually has a lot of power on these productions — that they want a part of their contract to say that the studio and the director and the producers will include all different kinds of people in the crew positions.”

Ava continues, “So all those hardworking crew members — an inclusion rider says, ‘if you hire me, you’ve also got to hire people who look like the real world.'”

DuVernay says she also agrees with McDormand’s push for actors to include the rider when they come on board new projects.

“I think it’s a beautiful idea,” she explains. “And I’m really supportive of any idea that looks at ways to get more kinds of people, and more cultures, more races, more diversity and gender behind the camera.”

While McDormand’s speech may have struck a cord and started a conversation, DuVernay understands there’s no guarantee it will immediately change things. However, she believes it’s a great start.

“And so, good for her for using that international platform,” she says. “And now everyone’s talking about it… And maybe it’ll make real change.”

A Wrinkle in Time opens March 9 from Disney, the parent company of ABC News.

Copyright © 2018, ABC Radio. All rights reserved.